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[QUOTE=Knuto;850910]Exactly. In one of the latest issues of Classic and Sports Cars I read about a guy who used the crankshaft off a Lancia D24 as a lamp on his desk. The lead went through the oil gate drillings. Also remember reading about a guy who used a segment of a Concorde wing as a drawing board[/QUOTE]
Ferrari sells bits of F1 cars for similar reasons. If I had more money...
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[QUOTE=wwgkd;850911]Ferrari sells bits of F1 cars for similar reasons. If I had more money...[/QUOTE]
Yeah thats right. I remember i saw pistons, conrods and bits of CFRP for sale in the Galeria. Ridiculus price though... Didnt they sell working F1 V10s which you could have inside your house? (with ducting for exhaust) [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBXUOomynxw"]All ~150dB of it[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Knuto;850936]Yeah thats right. I remember i saw pistons, conrods and bits of CFRP for sale in the Galeria. Ridiculus price though... Didnt they sell working F1 V10s which you could have inside your house? (with ducting for exhaust) [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBXUOomynxw"]All ~150dB of it[/URL][/QUOTE]
That would be the greatest piece of art ever.
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[quote=Mr-Supercar;850755]F40 for me but the F50 would have demolished the 959! might have been newer but it can compete with today supercars and win most of the time.[/quote]
True, the F50 is in a different league. It is built with a full carbon fiber tube, F1 derived engine, and push rod suspension. The F50s limits are significantly higher than the F40s.
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Even if I weren't a Porsche fanboy, I would go for the 959 for practicality reasons:
- Has a trunk of some sort
- Small engine means decent fuel economy (even with twin turbo)
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[QUOTE=GumballRunner;851641]Even if I weren't a Porsche fanboy, I would go for the 959 for practicality reasons:
- Has a trunk of some sort
- Small engine means decent fuel economy (even with twin turbo)[/QUOTE]
The engine in the F40 is less 100cc bigger.
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The Ferrari F40 was the last car produced under the name of Enzo Ferrari. This man devoted his life to creating a legend in motorsport and as we know, he sure accomplished this achievement. Ferrari is more than another car manufacturer-It is a name that represents passion, charisma, winning, and the stroey of how Enzo created this beautiful thing. The Ferrari F40 showed that Enzo Ferrari wanted to build a car that would somehow revisit the brutal roots and character of earlier Ferraris. He set out to make a point to the world that even without his existence, Ferrari as a company is still perfectly able to produce amazing, charismatic, and remarkable machines. Therefore, I would surely take the car that in a way, encapsulates what Ferrari is all about in a very loud and dramatic way.
TO be honest, the 959 is a bit boring, and most people have heard more about the f40 than the 959. Also, the 959 probably doesn't have this history or symbolism as the F40.
So it's a clear decision.............The glorious Ferrari F40.
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-> Ever since my tender age of 9, I've been adoring the 959 in a world of Countach's, ZR-1's, Vector W8, and especially the F40.
[img]http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/crop/200602/1981-porsche-959-12_460x0w.jpg[/img]
-> Its clean, streamlined shape was the benchmark performance for Porsche that held for few years until the 911 GT1 was released to the street and was also established my love with the hi-po 911's.
[img]http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/142/069_3724~Ferrari-F40-Posters.jpg[/img]
-> Sure, the F40 has the raw-edged performance that will separate you and your mortality. Sure the F40 has the Enzo's touch. And the F40 gives you a representation on how it feels to be in an F1 car.
[img]http://aussieexotics.com/forum/dlattach.html;topic=320.0;attach=4680;image[/img]
-> But the 959 has the medal of honors (or should I mean trophies). The 959 conquered both road and rally, a rarity on a super car. Plus its a lot rarer, this car is not US-legal (unless if I have the $$$$$$, I can just show up in Canepa Design and get their US-legal 600hp version), a all-weather performance monster even by todays standard is still being feared, and its every day usability thrumps it compared to the F40.
[img]http://www.autoblog.com/media/2006/07/porsche-959-rally-dakar-dusty-resized.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.qv500.com/Porsche%20959%20P3%201.jpg[/img]
:)
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The F40 may not be an everyday car but it feels a lot more special if you drive it...
It has more soul and passion...
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the 959 was succesfull in different motorsports and the ferrari well it just wasnt.
the 959 is the more technically advanced. the engine was fitted to the956 and962 group c racecars. the porsche also had four wheel drive with variable torque split, with manual and electronic adjustable settings for different road conditions.
it has a six speed box, double wishbone suspension with height asdjustment,hydraulic and mechanical damping, 51% of the body is of composite material and the drag co-efficient is a slippery 0.32. it also had on board tyre pressure monitors and hollow magnesium rims.
the porsche was £50 thousand cheaper even tho they only made 268 compared to the f40's 1315 units.
The porsche 959 came 7th overall in the 1986 le mans 24hr. and won the paris dakar the same year. the 959 also placed 2nd and 5th.
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Ferrari was never that successful in GT racing those years... They were heavily concentrating on F1
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[QUOTE=apple HEAD;855992]
the porsche was £50 thousand cheaper even tho they only made 268 compared to the f40's 1315 units.
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which turned the F40 into a profitable car and the 959 in a prolific loss maker....
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fair enough. but why is it that the more numerous F40 commands a premium over the rarer,more sophisticated 959?
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[QUOTE=apple HEAD;856001]fair enough. but why is it that the more numerous F40 commands a premium over the rarer,more sophisticated 959?[/QUOTE]
the whims of the market and a specific brand name....
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[QUOTE=apple HEAD;856001]fair enough. but why is it that the more numerous F40 commands a premium over the rarer,more sophisticated 959?[/QUOTE]
I think the 959 isn't much more sophisticated than the f40... The F40 just hve a simple lightweight construction...