Can't find any survivor of the 4CS 1500. Anyone knows something?
Regards
Jörg
Can't find any survivor of the 4CS 1500. Anyone knows something?
Regards
Jörg
This is a recent pic from some of the Maserati fanclub sites. Unfortunately, I don't remember the site. And I don't know whether it is an authentic car or a copy.
Hi Alex,
this Car is #1126 a Tipo 4CS 1100, it is known for many years, seems to be original.
Regards
Jörg
What a wealth of knowledge here about pre-war Maserati race cars! I am more familiar with post-war Maserati GT cars, so I need your help in identifying an unknown car which I photographed in September 1974 at the Kruse Brother's Auction in Auburn, Indiana.
Unfortunately, I have long since lost the program from the auction, and have no other information about the car. I recently contacted Kruse directly, but their records were put into archive long ago (well, it is 34 years ago!). I always thought it was a special bodied Alfa Romeo, since that is what I wrote on the back of the snapshot. But that was years ago and could be a lapse of memory. The photo is too indistinct to make out the badge on the nose, but could be either an Alfa or a Maserati Trident logo.
Based on the information here, and my quick research elsewhere, I now wonder if it is a 4CS of some sort. The similarity of this unknown car to 4CS #1124 (the Cunningham / Rosso Bianco car) is very striking, but there are also a number of detail differences. There is certainly nothing like it in Orsini & Zagari. Could this be 4CS #1123 before it was re-bodied by Maserati SpA in 1977, and then later by Sean Danaher? Or is it a re-bodied 4CM? Or something else?
The only thing better than a good mystery, is seeing it solved!
Cheers!
Doug alias Peconga
Boise, Idaho USA
Last edited by peconga; 03-19-2008 at 12:58 AM. Reason: correction
Welcome Peconga,
I would not be surprised if your car would indeed be 4CS#1123
Detail - Tipo 4 CS 1100 s/n 1123
Apparently it was in the USA in the seventies, and was fitted with a new body in 1977, and the way the old body is described, makes it look like it is "your" car.
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Dear Faksta, I was impressed by your competence on Mille Miglia. As I am nephiew of Aymo Maggi (my mother, Eleonora Maggi, is daughter of his brother) I would be really interested in a photograph of my uncle driving the Maserati 26B at the Mille Miglia '28, have you any idea of where it is possible to find it?
Many thanks in advance for your kind reply and ciao from Brescia,
Luca Salvi
Welcome, AymoMaggi!
I will try to find the picture, but unfortunately can't promise anything.
It is also about time to decrease a number of my unfinished threads here...
That's what I meant, of course
Luca, this is what I have found in the web:
http://www.ddavid.com/formula1/images/miglia28b.jpg
http://www.ddavid.com/formula1/images/miglia28c.jpg
http://www.ddavid.com/formula1/images/miglia28d.jpg
Car #39 is what you need. All the pictures belong to Dennis David's website (as linked to). It is also good that you have pointed out my previous message, as I have found a mistake there. Of course, Aymo Maggi drove a 26B MM in 1928 Mille Miglia together with Ernesto Maserati, not Ettore. 1929 entry should also be changed: Ernesto Maserati - Baconin Borzacchini. Ettore didn't drive the cars in races, as far as I'm aware.
Great stuff Faksta!
The car is 4CS chassis no 1126. It was the actual winner of the 1100cc class in the 1935 and 1936 Mille Miglia races, was entered in the 1937 race, but retired with a broken engine. The new body was fitted by Lurani for an entry in the 1938 Portuguese Grand Prix, but Lurani crashed his 4CM at Crystal Palace two weeks before and broke his hip, so the car was not raced by Scuderia Ambrosiana again, but was sold to a Chinese businessman in Singapore in 1939. The Japanese army confiscated the car, but it was rescued from them and buried for the rest of the war. I bought its mortal remains in 1969 and rebuilt it to its 1938 specification. It is now owned by my son.Maseratinut
Maseratinut,
Thanks for your input. We have actually shot this car and will add it to the 4CS 1100 feature on the main page (Ultimatecarpage.com - Powered by knowledge, driven by passion).
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